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I will start this here for now. We will see where this goes. Ask questions here. Give CONSTRUCTIVE feedback. Tell me what you would like to see. This is pretty personal for me so I am not sure how much I will be doing outside of what I am already doing when I am not at work. I will be sharing thoughts on gear I am using, including for reviews. I will be walking you through my processes. Please like the Youtube videos and share with anyone you think may be interested.

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Ryan, as a fairly new shooter to long range, I appreciate listening to your thoughts and how you do things. You explain the reasons why you do what you do, and the equipment you use. I enjoy your content.

Everyone's free time is precious. I personally appreciate the time you take to make reviews and give feedback. I can't get enough content. Guess I got the bug bad.

Either way, please continue, as you have time and drive to do so. We appreciate it.
 

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I'll just follow suit with Dew and say Crash summed it up. You personally give so much to the LRO community trying to help others become better at this passion of long range hunting and shooting, I personally thank you for all your time and effort. So far the vlogs have really explained (as I call it) "the method to your madness" and why you take the steps you do to get the results you expect.
You should feel good about what you're doing helping others, keep up the great content as there are those of us that are watching, soaking it in and learning!!!
 

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I appreciate the feedback. This SAUM is being far more difficult than any barrel I have had in the past. Too many things changed at the same time. That is one reason I do not like barrel burners. It was simple to tune when the barrel was fresh. In retrospect I should have re done seating depth testing prior to re-tuning powder.
 

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I saw the first vlog before it was mentioned here. I thought it was a nice change to just watch you do your thing with minimal monologue. I know it would be a ton of work but it would be cool to see a split window of your hits at 1000 yards. But hey, it was good. Watched #2 last night and felt the same. I liked seeing where you shoot. I have often wondered about the affect shooting at first light does. Makes me wonder about shooting at elk/deer at first light. And, its good to see I'm not alone so early in the morning.
 

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Just watched your third vlog, your lucky your not here where I live as the soybeans are 2ft plus. On a serious note: great vlog, you are really showing the detail and depth you go into verifying and tweaking a load that you would be confident to hunt game with. I also like the fact that this rifle hasn't made it easy for you and your step by step approach to getting it where you are satisfied. I'm definitely watching and learning! 👍
 

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Just watched your third vlog, your lucky your not here where I live as the soybeans are 2ft plus. On a serious note: great vlog, you are really showing the detail and depth you go into verifying and tweaking a load that you would be confident to hunt game with. I also like the fact that this rifle hasn't made it easy for you and your step by step approach to getting it where you are satisfied. I'm definitely watching and learning! 👍
The beans 40 ft to the east are well over 2ft tall. Different farmers, different harvest/plant times. This rifle was crazy easy to tune the first time. After the speed up it is making me work. I would guess I only have another two weeks in that field then I will be relegated to 565 yards again until after harvest.
 

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Just watched your third vlog, your lucky your not here where I live as the soybeans are 2ft plus. On a serious note: great vlog, you are really showing the detail and depth you go into verifying and tweaking a load that you would be confident to hunt game with. I also like the fact that this rifle hasn't made it easy for you and your step by step approach to getting it where you are satisfied. I'm definitely watching and learning!

Same here in Indiana.

I’m guessing from the videos though, that they planted winter wheat and harvested it, and then planted a short maturity cycle soy bean. This way they get two crops. Obviously the yield will be a little lower on the soy beans, but they didn’t loose out on some of the growing season.
 

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Same here in Indiana.

I’m guessing from the videos though, that they planted winter wheat and harvested it, and then planted a short maturity cycle soy bean. This way they get two crops. Obviously the yield will be a little lower on the soy beans, but they didn’t loose out on some of the growing season.
Yep.
 

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I just wanted to pitch and say great vlogs. I really enjoy the content you put out and I trust the data and information you share. You do a good job of explaining why you use this or that and you show solid data to back up your methods and techniques. Keep up the work 👍
 

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I watched Vlog #3 this morning and am wondering how many shots are you into this rifle now? I fire formed 100 pcs of brass for my 30 SMPP then did load development and it tuned in pretty good and didn't have to work around what you are with this. I know your opinion on doing load development right away but would it have made sense on this 6.5 SAUM to wait? I know looking back is always easier but kinda wondering what you think with this particular rifle.
 

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Really enjoying the vlog
Question about ES
What do you consider an acceptable ES?
 

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I watched Vlog #3 this morning and am wondering how many shots are you into this rifle now? I fire formed 100 pcs of brass for my 30 SMPP then did load development and it tuned in pretty good and didn't have to work around what you are with this. I know your opinion on doing load development right away but would it have made sense on this 6.5 SAUM to wait? I know looking back is always easier but kinda wondering what you think with this particular rifle.
No. This rifle will not change my mind. I know it will shoot around 3020fps and somewhere around .025 off. If I had waited I would have wasted 100 rounds I could have been learning the rifle with. I know when it is in tune how it will perform at 1k vs spending another 100 learning that. The more important part I have not mentioned in the vlog is I started with RL26 and the rifle did not like it. This used around 40 rounds. I switched to H1000 and had a load shooting sub .250" consistently within another 20 rounds. I then moved to data collection. This rifle may be a little more difficult but all will require some tuning. The more overbore the more you will have to continue to tune. I will never see the value in wasting the first 100 rounds.
 

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Really enjoying the vlog
Question about ES
What do you consider an acceptable ES?
I trust the target. A rifle I consider acceptable will be capable of holding 1moa vertical in all conditions at 1000 yards(+-.5moa from poa). There is a lot of good data with a good chrono like the labradar but too many new to reloading take it as gospel. The targets do not lie when shot at long distance.
 

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No. This rifle will not change my mind. I know it will shoot around 3020fps and somewhere around .025 off. If I had waited I would have wasted 100 rounds I could have been learning the rifle with. I know when it is in tune how it will perform at 1k vs spending another 100 learning that. The more important part I have not mentioned in the vlog is I started with RL26 and the rifle did not like it. This used around 40 rounds. I switched to H1000 and had a load shooting sub .250" consistently within another 20 rounds. I then moved to data collection. This rifle may be a little more difficult but all will require some tuning. The more overbore the more you will have to continue to tune. I will never see the value in wasting the first 100 rounds.
Good point. There’s value in collecting the data, keeping it in a log book for reference to look back on.
 

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I trust the target. A rifle I consider acceptable will be capable of holding 1moa vertical in all conditions at 1000 yards(+-.5moa from poa). There is a lot of good data with a good chrono like the labradar but too many new to reloading take it as gospel. The targets do not lie when shot at long distance.
Thank You
 

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Watched your latest Vlog And I think it's a good thing that this rifle is making you actually work a little. As a viewer I think there is more to gain this way as to you just finding your load and done eezy peezy. Another great Vlog. It has definitely been a teaching & learning session!!!👍
 

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Watched your latest Vlog And I think it's a good thing that this rifle is making you actually work a little. As a viewer I think there is more to gain this way as to you just finding your load and done eezy peezy. Another great Vlog. It has definitely been a teaching & learning session!!!👍
I actually hoped some would appreciate it being difficult but really most of my rifles have not been this much of a pain. I don't want to give it away yet but this rifle actually got worse and I am working through it.
 

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I actually hoped some would appreciate it being difficult but really most of my rifles have not been this much of a pain. I don't want to give it away yet but this rifle actually got worse and I am working through it.
Is it common to be this difficult to re-tune the load after the barrel speeds up or is there something happening that you'll spell out in a future video? I like your vlogs btw. Its real and unscripted.
 
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It is common to be this difficult to re-tune the load after the barrel speeds up or is there something happening that you'll spell out in a future video. I like your vlogs btw. Its real and unscripted.
I have found in the 80 plus barrels I have tuned it really is as simple as dropping to the speed it was accurate at and maybe do some very small tweaks. Re tuning seating depth is not usually difficult either although you can not necessarily just "chase" the lands and maintain the original distance from the lands. This barrel has a mechanical issue and I will talk about it if and when I get it remedied. With hunting season approaching it may be sidelined unfortunately.
 

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I have found in the 80 plus barrels I have tuned it really is as simple as dropping to the speed it was accurate at and maybe do some very small tweaks. Re tuning seating depth is not usually difficult either although you can not necessarily just "chase" the lands and maintain the original distance from the lands. This barrel has a mechanical issue and I will talk about it if and when I get it remedied. With hunting season approaching it may be sidelined unfortunately.
I was thinking it had to be something. I could hear the F-bombs off camera.
 

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I have enjoyed watching your process and the slight struggle. I am interested to see cold bore through testing. With velocity/accuracy. Do you typically see an increase in velocity after these first two shots?
 

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I have enjoyed watching your process and the slight struggle. I am interested to see cold bore through testing. With velocity/accuracy. Do you typically see an increase in velocity after these first two shots?
Not when the load is in tune. It may be at the max of my ES but not out of line and I will not use a load that can not keep the cold bore shot in the group.
 

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Another informative vlog. I do have a question, I've been using the Strelok basic just for target practice and it has worked for my purposes so far out to 1k. I know you have touched on it before but why the Shooter App and what other if any bullet drop apps do you think are relevant and worthy of using for long range hunting/shooting?
Thanks.....Ron
 

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Another informative vlog. I do have a question, I've been using the Strelok basic just for target practice and it has worked for my purposes so far out to 1k. I know you have touched on it before but why the Shooter App and what other if any bullet drop apps do you think are relevant and worthy of using for long range hunting/shooting?
Thanks.....Ron
I use bullet drop while doing load development because I don't like to build profiles until I have completed the load. I feel like shooter is the best app if that is the route you choose. I also love the Kestrel if you want to carry a wind instrument(everyone should). I am falling in love with the BR4. I am not sure if that helps.
 

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Can’t wait to hear how the 184 hybrids do. Probably a good option in the 7 max.
 

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I watched #7 yesterday and it was actually encouraging to see that sometimes even Ryan has a range session that doesn't turn out as expected. I have a lot of those type.

I enjoyed the OCW firing session for the 6mm Dasher. It might have been nice to see the charge weight written by each group so that we could understand what the sequence of charge weights looked like.
 

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That was a short quick vlog however very informative with great explanation. So looks like you like that rifle as it seems to shoot very well. I've already seen your pics of your hunt as you already know and I presume that was the rifle you took on that hunt, and we know the result. So once again Great Informative VLOG. So did you even attempt to fine tune the load with your limited time? You did mention the possibility but then sounded like you were going to just call it good. Just curious.
 

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Didn’t fine tune. The gun is very consistent. We used several rifles on the hunt.
 

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Just watched VLOG #10. I wonder if some of the low velocity could be due to the new brass?

Looks like you had some encouraging groups going there.
 

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Just watched VLOG #10. I wonder if some of the low velocity could be due to the new brass?

Looks like you had some encouraging groups going there.
Once fired brass will make pressure go up it if does change at all and in most cases will not let you get the velocity you can with new. Yes it does cause velocity to go up but if you were at max before you will be over with once fired. That is a generalization of coarse. I am not going to spoil it because I have a few more videos already to go in the next few weeks but this barrel is much slower than my last.
 

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Hey Ryan the VLOGs are awesome. In the latest which the wind blowing 20-30 what distance we’re you shooting at? Might be good to tell us the distance your shooting at in the VLOGs. Thanks for taking the time to do these. Very informative.
 

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Hey Ryan the VLOGs are awesome. In the latest which the wind blowing 20-30 what distance we’re you shooting at? Might be good to tell us the distance your shooting at in the VLOGs. Thanks for taking the time to do these. Very informative.
Good feedback. It was just an OCW and seating depth at 100 yards in the last two videos. I don't have access past 565 at this time due to crops and hunting season.
 
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I would like to see a comparison where your shoot the 6.5 rsaum, 7-270wsm and 300wsm at a distance (500-1000yds) to see real world differences in the bullets performance in the wind…..i assume next year or late winter, maybe 3 people shoot at same time with the Bullets colored aiming at same target

I believe all three Bullets have very similar paper performance

I like the vlogs
 

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I would like to see a comparison where your shoot the 6.5 rsaum, 7-270wsm and 300wsm at a distance (500-1000yds) to see real world differences in the bullets performance in the wind…..i assume next year or late winter, maybe 3 people shoot at same time with the Bullets colored aiming at same target

I believe all three Bullets have very similar paper performance

I like the vlogs
I no longer have the 7. I do have a max. I can tell you in my experience my windage holds match my ballistic calculator. I have heard from guys who shoot fclass and see 10s of thousands of rounds on paper every year that bigger bullets have less drift despite what a calculator says. I would never tell them they are wrong but I have not seen it.
 

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This may have already been covered and I missed it, but in one of the videos you mentioned using WW brass on the previous 300 WSM and that the load in that rifle was faster. Did you try the WW brass in this one. Also will you post a review on the ADG brass or is that coming in another venue? Thanks for the VLOG’s!
 

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This may have already been covered and I missed it, but in one of the videos you mentioned using WW brass on the previous 300 WSM and that the load in that rifle was faster. Did you try the WW brass in this one. Also will you post a review on the ADG brass or is that coming in another venue? Thanks for the VLOG’s!
I have not used WW brass is this rifle. I will be just for more testing of the ADG WSM brass but the case capacities are relatively close so it most likely is not the cause the velocity discrepancy. I will be giving feeback on the ADG brass but due to the nature of component testing it most likely will be a more long term deal. I do not like those who just use something a few times and then give a "review". I will be ordering some Norma to add to my comparisons. Welcome to the forum and thanks for watching!
 

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[mention]FURMAN [/mention] in your latest vlog I noticed your barrel cooler. In a previous thread you mentioned some other brands being better and more of your personal choice. But the one you used looked to be MS brand? Am I correct? Which brand did you use (red/black)?
 

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[mention]FURMAN [/mention] in your latest vlog I noticed your barrel cooler. In a previous thread you mentioned some other brands being better and more of your personal choice. But the one you used looked to be MS brand? Am I correct? Which brand did you use (red/black)?
I have been using this
because I have misplaced this
 

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I do have Magneto Speeds in my truck incase one of the others dies and I am out of batteries.
 

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Just watched Ep 12 and had a question. Were you using different powder charges with the different seating depths?

Thanks for taking us along on your load development outings. I have sure learned a lot from you and Broz.
 

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Just watched Ep 12 and had a question. Were you using different powder charges with the different seating depths?

Thanks for taking us along on your load development outings. I have sure learned a lot from you and Broz.
If you watched the two previous videos I had done an OCW and a seating depth test. I did not really like what I saw but tried two new seating depths and fine tuning the charge in the third video prior to moving to a different combo. I was trying to limit trips to shoot. I would not recommend mixing like that to someone who is going to be asking for help online because it does muddy the water.

 

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