Revic BR10 vs Tract LRF

[quandary]

Per Ladd thread to compare two competing range finding binos with very good ballistic solvers imbedded.

 

[Ladd]

I’ll have to go check them out today.

 

[bigbulls]

I've been reading or listening to everything I can find on the new to be released Tract LRF bino's. If there everything James says they are with glass quality and the ease of wind changes and how they change the wind direction as you move the bino's they will be a game changer. I'm not even going to mention price. Tag

 

[Willys]

I like the Eagle ballistic app. Once AB redid their app its just not that friendly to me. Looking forward to trying theirs out - what irks me is when the hardware readouts don’t match the apps tho all the inputs do. You have to apply tweaks to one or the other to get them to line up. Solution is to ignore the app and tweak hardware but would rather not. I haven’t used the revic binos. They sound good.

 

[bigbulls]

The revic gen 1 work great but the wind input is a little time consuming for me. Maybe it's different in the gen 2

 

[Ladd]

They didn’t have the new one at the Hunt Expo but it’s due out in March. They did say it has SCHOT glass which is excellent and it has a way to dial the wind into the solver.

 

[FURMAN]

The revic gen 1 work great but the wind input is a little time consuming for me. Maybe it's different in the gen 2

I never had any issue with the input but it was on a cycling display. The Gen 2 is all on one display and is much quicker to get the info.

 

[Willys]

Sold my beloved 12x pures and went to full time sig stabilizing binos so back to handheld rangefinder. Imagine tract will offer that soon with eagle ballistics.

 

[Willys]

I kniw the Display in Tract was normal english while the BR4 used cryptic mix of upper lower case letters. Does BR10 have that same style?

 

[quandary]

The new Tract is out for pre-order and sold out very fast. The Tract is 37oz vs 32oz for the Revic. They are pretty much the same ize. The Revics range finder goes out quite a bit further. The Tract has onboard environmental sensors. I could not find anything in the Revic product page on this point. Does the Revic have onboard temp and pressure?

Tract is $1,999 vs Revic at $2,945. The Tract has a big downside in my mind, made in China. Anyone know where the Revic is made?

 

[Willys]

The new Tract is out for pre-order and sold out very fast. The Tract is 37oz vs 32oz for the Revic. They are pretty much the same ize. The Revics range finder goes out quite a bit further. The Tract has onboard environmental sensors. I could not find anything in the Revic product page on this point. Does the Revic have onboard temp and pressure?

Tract is $1,999 vs Revic at $2,945. The Tract has a big downside in my mind, made in China. Anyone know where the Revic is made?

Japan

 

[bigbulls]

I got in the first order round so it will be interesting. I have the Zeiss RF, Revic Gen 1 and now these when they get here. It will be nice to compare. Most only warrantee electronics for 5 years max and the Tract is Lifetime - including electronics but hopefully it's never needed. Glass is most important me. But how the wind inputs work on the Tract is what made me want to try them and price. Will see.

 

[RTK]

The new Tract is out for pre-order and sold out very fast. The Tract is 37oz vs 32oz for the Revic. They are pretty much the same ize. The Revics range finder goes out quite a bit further. The Tract has onboard environmental sensors. I could not find anything in the Revic product page on this point. Does the Revic have onboard temp and pressure?

Tract is $1,999 vs Revic at $2,945. The Tract has a big downside in my mind, made in China. Anyone know where the Revic is made?

The Revic has onboard temp and pressure sensors. The temp can be manually overridden if wanted. That way when you are sitting in your warm truck and it is freezing outside you can get the correct calculations.

 

[Dallen0427]

I was going to upgrade my binoculars to the image stabilization type, but now am thinking maybe range finding binos instead. The new leupold and Revic binos have some sort of “pinning” feature, which I think could be handy at times. Does the tract have that feature?

 

[Willys]

ONx can use that feature with any rf. Point phone to target and slide dot out to match range. Don’t need a rf to try it.

 

[quandary]

I was going to upgrade my binoculars to the image stabilization type, but now am thinking maybe range finding binos instead. The new leupold and Revic binos have some sort of “pinning” feature, which I think could be handy at times. Does the tract have that feature?

Yes the binos have the pinning feature. Right now the pinning feature works with a number of mapping apps. The Tract boys are attempting to reach out to ONx to work with their App.

 

[quandary]

I decided to order one for the May shipment after watching the interactive YouTube thing the Tract guys but on. It was pretty informative. I asked about the Chinese sourcing and why not LOW. Jon and John said that LOW does not make range finding binoculars. Consequently they had to find another OEM. Interestingly Ilya Koshkin (Dark Lord of Optics) was watching and commented that the china OEM produced good product, for what ever that is worth. The glass is Schott sourced from Germany. I am pretty impressed with the function and features of the product. In any event, Tract has a 30 day no questions asked return policy. So figured this isn't much of a gamble. If it is great keep it, if not send it back. It will be interesting to compare to the optics of my Zeiss SFLs and Leica Trinovids.

 

[bigbulls]

Also James at Eagle Ballistics which I don't know at all, but has a lot of youtube how too's and he comes across to me as someone that says it how it is. (no bull) I purchased his ballistic app about 4 months ago and I will say out of all the ballistic app's I've used which is almost all of them none even come close to his with future's and easy to use and very accurate. So that being the case for me I had to preorder on the first round. We will see.

 

[Willys]

Also James at Eagle Ballistics which I don't know at all, but has a lot of youtube how too's and he comes across to me as someone that says it how it is. (no bull) I purchased his ballistic app about 4 months ago and I will say out of all the ballistic app's I've used which is almost all of them none even come close to his with future's and easy to use and very accurate. So that being the case for me I had to preorder on the first round. We will see.

Yes his app is way more friendly than Litz’s AB Quantum app after their update.

 

[quandary]

Received my Tract LRF a little over a week ago. Haven't had much time to play with it but initial impressions are favorable. Eventually I will get to some side by side comparisons with my Zeiss SFLs.

 

[OSU Fisher]

I ordered a tract. I’ve had multiple revics and been around many more. Not going to go into details but it’s time to try something different. I’m excited to see how they do and hold up. Can’t beat the price either especially if you get first responder pricing.

 

[quandary]

I got a chance to use the Tract LRF last evening. Loaded the data for my 6.5 PRC range rifle into the binos from the App. Went into the menu and adjusted everything to my preference. Both these activities were quite straightforward and intuitive. Went out to run our PRS course. At the first stand I got the Kestral out to measure wind speed along with observation of speed and direction set that into the Binos, very easy to do. Used the setting for environmentals as measured by the Binos. Finding the targets was easy, the glass is very good, however it was mostly sunny trending towards becoming cloudier (I started at 4:30 & shot until 7 at which time it started to rain). The only other time I ran the course the only thing I used to find the targets was my BR4 and with just the Revic BR4 I had great difficulty finding the targets. Ranging a target was very easy, repeatable and accurate. The ballistics solutions were spot on, in fact I didn't miss a shot until the 1,008 yard shot off the downed tree trunk. (later found that , my suppressor had loosened a bit I have to be better with that) I even managed first shot hits on the woodchuck and prairie dog at 500ish yards. Based on first use Tract has a winner with this product particularly given the price versus the competition.

 

[OSU Fisher]

I got a chance to use the Revic last evening. Loaded the data for my 6.5 PRC range rifle into the binos from the App. Went into the menu and adjusted everything to my preference. Both these activities were quite straightforward and intuitive. Went out to run our PRS course. At the first stand I got the Kestral out to measure wind speed along with observation of speed and direction set that into the Binos, very easy to do. Used the setting for environmentals as measured by the Binos. Finding the targets was easy, the glass is very good, however it was mostly sunny trending towards becoming cloudier (I started at 4:30 & shot until 7 at which time it started to rain). The only other time I ran the course the only thing I used to find the targets was my BR4 and with just the BR4 I had great difficulty finding the targets. Ranging a target was very easy, repeatable and accurate. The ballistics solutions were spot on, in fact I didn't miss a shot until the 1,008 yard shot off the downed tree trunk. (later found that , my suppressor had loosened a bit I have to be better with that) I even managed first shot hits on the woodchuck and prairie dog at 500ish yards. Based on first use Revic has a winner with this product particularly given the price versus the competition.

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You mean tract, correct?

 

[quandary]

You mean tract, correct?

Oops! Fixed.

 

[chicoredneck]

Could you do an optical test with them against an alpha pair of binoculars? I’m interested in buying, but have heard mixed reviews regarding Tract’s optical quality.

 

[quandary]

Who are you asking? The only newer binos I have are Zeiss SFLs 10x40s.

 

[chicoredneck]

How do they compare optically to the Zeiss SFL? The SFL have stellar optical quality.

 

[dony55]

The glass on the Tract is incredibly crisp for the price, but the ballistic solver setup inside the Revic app feels more intuitive when tailoring curves. I looked through both at a match last season. If your focus is purely on the speed of the environment updates, the BR10 edges it out.

 

[quandary]

How do they compare optically to the Zeiss SFL? The SFL have stellar optical quality.

Take this for what its worth as I have old eyes and my comparison was not setting up on tried pods bouncing back and forth. Or sunrise/sunset comparison. I compared by picking up and setting down looking at wild purple flowers in my dark woods with some sun light coming through in beams, green foliage, dead branches etc.

Both the Tract LRF and Zeiss SFL had good contrast, both were crisp, neither had any color aberrations that I noticed. The Zeiss were a tad brighter. Would it be enough to miss an animal? Probably not for my eyes.

After using the Tracts again last evening on the PRS course I am happy with the combination. The glass is good, the rangefinding is better than my BR4, the speed of solutions is faster than my BR4, the ballistic solutions are better than my BR4 (this of course could be influenced by my shooting on any given day), ease of use (adjusting wide speed and direction, changing menu options etc) is much, much better in the Tract LRF.

 

[RTK]

Take this for what its worth as I have old eyes and my comparison was not setting up on tried pods bouncing back and forth. Or sunrise/sunset comparison. I compared by picking up and setting down looking at wild purple flowers in my dark woods with some sun light coming through in beams, green foliage, dead branches etc.

Both the Tract LRF and Zeiss SFL had good contrast, both were crisp, neither had any color aberrations that I noticed. The Zeiss were a tad brighter. Would it be enough to miss an animal? Probably not for my eyes.

After using the Tracts again last evening on the PRS course I am happy with the combination. The glass is good, the rangefinding is better than my BR4, the speed of solutions is faster than my BR4, the ballistic solutions are better than my BR4 (this of course could be influenced by my shooting on any given day), ease of use (adjusting wide speed and direction, changing menu options etc) is much, much better in the Tract LRF.

How do they compare to the BR10?

 

[Willys]

I went back to a handheld but like that the Tract features the unit and app outputting similar data, something some other units aren’t as good at.

 

[chicoredneck]

Thanks quandary for the comparison. I ordered some. They sound promising.

 

[quandary]

How do they compare to the BR10?

I have never used a BR10. The only other LRF bino I have used is the Vectronix Vector X, with and without the extensions.

 

[quandary]

I did find one thing in the Tract LRF that I hope they can change with a software update. I mostly use MIL scopes but I do have a couple of MOA scopes, one of which I use a lot, the Zeiss LRP S3. Quite often when I go to the range to shoot long distance or the PRS course I will bring along a hunting rifle to practice with as well as the heavy rifle the LRP S3 sits on. The scopes on the other rifles will more likely than not be MIL based. The switch between a rifle with a MOA scope and a rifle with a MIL scope is a two step process in the Tract. First you have to go in the menu and select the rifle system, then you have to go into the Display settings and switch it to MOA or MRAD. It would certainly be more efficient to have the display switch to MOA or MRAD according to the profile which is loaded from the Eagle Ballistics App.

 

[quandary]

To update this post. Used the Tract hunting for the first time in Canada looking for Caribou. I was quite happy with the bino's performance. I never felt hindered by the optical quality, the ranging (not animals unfortunately) was good (consistently getting reading out to 2,000 yards occasionally beyond 3,000 in variable conditions) all in all I was very happy with them.

I also attached a Wiser BA-7 Sparrow to the binos for attachment to my RRS Anvil-30. This combo worked great for glassing, particularly as the ARCA width setting for the Sparrow was the same as for my rifle chassis.