Gunwerks Suppressors

[Taylor692]

Hi guys, Any updates and or experiences with the Gunwerks 6IX & Gunwerks 8IGHT?
Noise reduction ?
Recoil reduction?
Do the Gunwerks suppressors compare to these other cans below?
It looks like Gunwerks does not make a muzzle break for underneath the can? Is this necessary for recoil reduction?
Or is a break not needed since there is a can?


My research I have done I have narrowed it down to the Thunderbeast Ultra 7 & Ultra 9
&
The Silencerco Omega 300 & Omega 36M
& also of course the 2 gunwerks cans above.
Any info would be great. Thanks

 

[Lancetkenyon]

I have an Ultra 7, and Ultra 9, and have a TBAC Dominus in ATF jail since Jan.

Look at the TBAC Dominus too. Shorter than the Ultra 7, quieter than the Ultra 7, lighter than the Ultra 9.

 

[waveslayer]

TBAC all the way!!! Hard to beat.

My ugly Twin had the Omega.. my Ultra can is superior with weight, POI shift and reduced noise

my wife thinks I only have 3 guns

 

[AXEFORCE6]

My vote goes to the Omega 300.

 

[HUNTER100]

Just received my ultra 7 a few weeks ago, and I am VERY happy with it. Planning on ordering a dominus next for reasons mentioned above.

 

[JoshHaker]

How has the accuracy been with TBAC? I find myself staying away from my suppressor when I'm looking for the highest accuracy. Although right now I am developing a load for my 6.5 PRC with it attached. So far it is shooting nicely.

 

[AXEFORCE6]

How has the accuracy been with TBAC? I find myself staying away from my suppressor when I'm looking for the highest accuracy. Although right now I am developing a load for my 6.5 PRC with it attached. So far it is shooting nicely.

I haven’t noticed any difference in accuracy on any rifle I shoot. I shoot every rifle suppressed. Even my .22.

 

[XTREMHTR16]

3 shots through my GAP 7 SAUM with the TBAC attached

 

[J2shooter]

How has the accuracy been with TBAC? I find myself staying away from my suppressor when I'm looking for the highest accuracy. Although right now I am developing a load for my 6.5 PRC with it attached. So far it is shooting nicely.

Excellent accuracy! My 6.5 SAUM consistently shoots .2s and .3s with the 1st gen TBAC Ultra 9 (6.5 mm version)

I like the CB brake attachment with the conical shoulder. It locks up so solid.

They just came out with a new CB design that doesn't need to be timed for those that almost always shoot suppressed.
Recoil reduction with the suppressor removed is significantly reduced with this brake.

As for recoil reduction shooting suppressed with cb brake vs direct thread, some say they feel a difference but the physics of it suggest that there should be little or no discernable difference. Once the bullet clears the muzzle the gas fills the suppressor chamber and has only one way out, through the front with both designs. The brake can not/does not function as a brake with the suppressor on it. All it can do is modify the way / direction gas enters the suppressor but all of that energy works its way out of the front.

The intent of the CB brake is to be used as as a recoil reducing brake while the suppressor is off.

The non timed version isn't about recoil reduction, it's about the conical shoulder / solid mount .

 

[Taylor692]

I have an Ultra 7, and Ultra 9, and have a TBAC Dominus in ATF jail since Jan.

Look at the TBAC Dominus too. Shorter than the Ultra 7, quieter than the Ultra 7, lighter than the Ultra 9.

So the Dominus is by far the better choice over the ultra 7 and ultra 9 then huh?! Good to know. May i ask where you bought it from? Online or local dealer. Seems like thunrderbeast is always out of stock.

 

[Taylor692]

Thanks everybody, it seems like thunderbeast is hard to beat...

Gunwerks seem to be stainless steel made where the thunderbeast and Silencerco seem to be titanium definitely lighter weight.

 

[J2shooter]

I was interested enough In this recoil question that I reached out to TBAC CS this morning with the question. Is there any difference in recoil reduction (shooting suppressed) between their mount options?

Quick reply from Blake.

Hi Kevin,

There is no appreciable difference in recoil abatement between our direct thread and CB Brake mounted suppressors when shooting suppressed. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thanks!

Blake Liley
Thunder Beast Arms Corporation
307-287-2052 Phone
888-447-2770 Fax
8214 Hutchins Drive
Cheyenne, WY, 82007
www.thunderbeastarms.com

 

[Taylor692]

I was interested enough In this recoil question that I reached out to TBAC CS this morning with the question. Is there any difference in recoil reduction (shooting suppressed) between their mount options?

Quick reply from Blake.

Hi Kevin,

There is no appreciable difference in recoil abatement between our direct thread and CB Brake mounted suppressors when shooting suppressed. Please let us know if you have any further questions.

Thanks!

Blake Liley
Thunder Beast Arms Corporation
307-287-2052 Phone
888-447-2770 Fax
8214 Hutchins Drive
Cheyenne, WY, 82007
www.thunderbeastarms.com

Wow , good to know.

 

[Lancetkenyon]

Got mine local AZ from Mr. Silencer.

 

[SierraJoe]

I just ordered an Ultra 7 from Mile High Shooting. They have the new, no-timing-required brake design in stock. The staff member who processed my order said the new brake still worked surprisingly well by itself at recoil reduction. He tested it on a 6.5 CM.

 

[Taylor692]

Well, I purchased the TBAC ultra 7 gen 2 a couple days ago! Now its a waiting time!! I can't wait to get it !!!!!!!!!!!!
I went with the .30 cal option.
I intended to bounce the suppressors back and fourth between 5 different guns of mine ranging from 22-250AI up to a 300 WM.

 

[J2shooter]

Very nice
If I remember correctly I believe mine took about 7 months

 

[Lancetkenyon]

Wait times vary widely. My first took just under 3 months. My second just under 2 months. My Dominus has been in ATF jail now for 9 months tomorrow.

 

[OSOK - Crash]

Well, I purchased the TBAC ultra 7 gen 2 a couple days ago! Now its a waiting time!! I can't wait to get it !!!!!!!!!!!!
I went with the .30 cal option.
I intended to bounce the suppressors back and fourth between 5 different guns of mine ranging from 22-250AI up to a 300 WM.

Excuse my ignorance here, but I was not aware you could use one can for multiple calibers? Is there a range where certain cans fit a range of calibers?

 

[J2shooter]

Yes, for a .30 caliber you can run .30 and smaller.

For the 6.5 can it's 6.5 and smaller.

The reason for going with a 6.5 can would be for slightly better suppression performance on 6.5 mm and down vs running those calibers on the larger .30 diameter.

TBAC lists a lot of the sound reduction specs on their site in some of these different scenarios.

But If had it to do again today with the TBAC gen 2 being a little better than the gen 1, I'd do the same thing Taylor did.

7" Ultra in .30 (I have the gen1 ultra 9 6.5)

 

[OSOK - Crash]

Yes, for a .30 caliber you can run .30 and smaller.

For the 6.5 can it's 6.5 and smaller.

The reason for going with a 6.5 can would be for slightly better suppression performance on 6.5 mm and down vs running those calibers on the larger .30 diameter.

TBAC lists a lot of the sound reduction specs on their site in some of these different scenarios.

But If had it to do again today with the TBAC gen 2 being a little better than the gen 1, I'd do the same thing Taylor did.

7" Ultra in .30 (I have the gen1 ultra 9 6.5)

Ahh. Ok.

So if one has a 6.5 caliber rifle and uses a .30 cal can, it will work but loose some of the suppression that a 6.5 cal can, and lower would provide?

 

[J2shooter]

Yes, but a couple db probably. It's not a lot.

 

[Lancetkenyon]

I run my Ultra 7 6.5mm on: 6.5SLR, 6.5SS ×2.
I run my Ultra 9 .308 on: 6CM, 25SST, 6.5SS .280AI, 28 Nosler.
My Dominus .308 (when I get it) will be run on: .260AI, 6.5SS, 7SS.

Several of my 6.5mm and down have been shot with both. To be honest, the .308 Ultra 9 is quieter than the 6.5 Ultra 7 on each rifle, but that is because the Ultra 9 is quieter than the Ultra 7, so I can't see the .308 vs 6.5mm being a big difference in noise reduction.

 

[Taylor692]

Hey guys,
Questions for the ones who have suppressors,
If my guns have a final load already made and I install the suppressors, I'm hearing it'll pick up speed?
That being said what is the best way to tackle this, drop 1/2g - 1g of powder? OR Do I need to do load development all over again?? Different seating depth? Any real range data please, thanks.

 

[J2shooter]

It will cause an increase in pressure. If you're running up towards the top you could very well be over max with the suppressor.

It wouldn't hurt to drop back 1.5 grains and shoot a ladder at ~ 800 yards or so in .3 grain increments looking for tight vertical. Go a bit past your original load to get an idea where pressure is and maybe plan on pulling some.

 

[Taylor692]

It will cause an increase in pressure. If you're running up towards the top you could very well be over max with the suppressor.

It wouldn't hurt to drop back 1.5 grains and shoot a ladder at ~ 800 yards or so in .3 grain increments looking for tight vertical. Go a bit past your original load to get an idea where pressure is and maybe plan on pulling some.

Sounds good, thanks Kevin.

 

[Captuna]

Ahh. Ok.

So if one has a 6.5 caliber rifle and uses a .30 cal can, it will work but loose some of the suppression that a 6.5 cal can, and lower would provide?

If you have spare money, you can get one for every cal. I have 15 treaded barrels from .17 to .300 Weatherby with three .30 cans. Can’t tell the difference.

 

[mullmann]

Got mine local AZ from Mr. Silencer.

That is where I got my 1st gen ultra 9 from. Groups are just as tight when I ran it on my 300RUM and now I run it on my .243. I plan to run it on a 25SST one day. ATF lost my paperwork the first time and I had to resubmit my packet.

 

[Taylor692]

Wellllll,
I'm almost 9 months since I ordered my TBAC Ultra 7 Gen 2.
10/5/21 is when I bought it.

on 11/2/21 My tax stamp was cashed.


How much longer do you guys think I have till I get it?

 

[AXEFORCE6]

I’ve had them come back from 5 months to 19 months…

 

[SierraJoe]

I am right behind you at almost 8 months. I am fortunate enough to be able to meet my SOT at the range for testing. But since it is taking so long, I have developed a hunting load without the suppressor because I am not optimistic I will have it by hunting season. UGH! This is such a broken system.

 

[Taylor692]

I am right behind you at almost 8 months. I am fortunate enough to be able to meet my SOT at the range for testing. But since it is taking so long, I have developed a hunting load without the suppressor because I am not optimistic I will have it by hunting season. UGH! This is such a broken system.

Yes I'm doing that exact same thing now as well, developing a load and thinking the suppressor won't be here before hunting season.