Best Medium Caliber For Hunting, By Ryan Furman

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Ryan Furman just finished up a great article about some popular "Medium" calibers. Check it out and let us know your thoughts on the topic!

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@FURMAN is the velocity correct for the 140 Bergers? Do they really drop off almost 400fps at 100yds? I could be reading the data wrong. So please set me straight if so.
 

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Nice article. Food for thought when thinking about what rifle to build and/or take on a hunt. Do you work anymore? Between hunts, load development, filming and publishing articles you must be cloning yourself.
 

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@FURMAN is the velocity correct for the 140 Bergers? Do they really drop off almost 400fps at 100yds? I could be reading the data wrong. So please set me straight if so.
I’ll have to look at the charts and how they displayed in the article when I get home but the graphs are below the charts and are labeled accordingly.
 

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Nice article. Food for thought when thinking about what rifle to build and/or take on a hunt. Do you work anymore? Between hunts, load development, filming and publishing articles you must be cloning yourself.
Lol. I’m burning the candle at both ends for sure!
 

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I’ll have to look at the charts and how they displayed in the article when I get home but the graphs are below the charts and are labeled accordingly.
Ryan, love to see these, big fan of the 6.5 and 7.

It appears several of them are off, the 7mm’s velocity at 100 is faster than their muzzle velocity?
 

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Ryan, love to see these, big fan of the 6.5 and 7.

It appears several of them are off, the 7mm’s velocity at 100 is faster than their muzzle velocity?
Make sure you are looking at the velocity numbers and not the energy numbers. The velocity numbers are slower at 100 then muzzle.
 

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Justin posted this with the package I gave him. It all appears correct to me. I think you guys are confusing the energy charts with velocity. I posted the muzzle velocities for the theoretical ballistics to be based off. I don't think any of the data has value without a reference. If you disagree point out one specific example and I will either fix it or point out the error in your thinking. I will clean up this thread once we sort this out. This is no different than I did in the couple of cartridge guides.
 

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What is your cartridge of choice in the 6.5 and 7mm calibers?
I am not 100% sure I have settled that debate within myself but I would say 6.5 SAUM or a 6.5x284 for a 6.5(a custom chambered PRC might fall in there just no SAAMI). I would lean towards a 7 SAUM or variant or a 7LRM for the 7.
 

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What a great article with factual based data to back it up. Of the 3 calibers I own 2 of them and after today I'll own the third. In my early years you couldn't convince me that there was a better cartridge than the 270win and to this day I own 2 of them. However as I've gotten older and with data like yours and the availability of information at our finger tips I see where the 277 calibers lack the availability of components and performance compared to the 264 and 284 calibers. All that being said there is no denying that the good old 270win has filled freezers all across this country for many years. In the community of Long Range Hunting is it the best choice? That's very obvious but will it ever completely die, it's yet to be seen!

Another great article by Ryan and to all the LRO staff "keep it coming", we love this stuff!
 
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Great article. Well thought out, and nice to see the non-super magnums represented.
 

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Can’t argue with your observations/logic. I think you meant to list the .277 150gr at the bottom of your energy chart instead of 170gr. Only thing that can be injected is sentimental bias. I have cartridges shooting very accurately from 338 edge to 223 but when I go for larger game I always seem to grab the 270 WSM. Luckily I have an 8 lb (with the scope) rifle that shoots the 170 EOL with uncannily nice accuracy at 3060 fps. Really not so lucky as it was not as accurate as I needed with a 26” barrel at the velocity I was looking for so I shortened it until it dialed-in at 24”; also had to test a few/modify muzzle brakes. I was always that 270 guy and picked up the 270 WSM right when they came out. I converted one of my Tikkas to 270 WSM 1:8 twist shortly after the 170 EOLs were released. A nice balance of lighter recoil in a packable 8 lb rifle. That being said the 7mm WSM will do everything slightly better due to pill selection (we switched all of our 7mm WSMs to the 195gr EOL @ 2900 fps and it has been very successful) and the 156 EOL has been hugely effective in all of our 6.5s. Something about that confidence from using “old faithful”…
 

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Can’t argue with your observations/logic. I think you meant to list the .277 150gr at the bottom of your energy chart instead of 170gr. Only thing that can be injected is sentimental bias. I have cartridges shooting very accurately from 338 edge to 223 but when I go for larger game I always seem to grab the 270 WSM. Luckily I have an 8 lb (with the scope) rifle that shoots the 170 EOL with uncannily nice accuracy at 3060 fps. Really not so lucky as it was not as accurate as I needed with a 26” barrel at the velocity I was looking for so I shortened it until it dialed-in at 24”; also had to test a few/modify muzzle brakes. I was always that 270 guy and picked up the 270 WSM right when they came out. I converted one of my Tikkas to 270 WSM 1:8 twist shortly after the 170 EOLs were released. A nice balance of lighter recoil in a packable 8 lb rifle. That being said the 7mm WSM will do everything slightly better due to pill selection (we switched all of our 7mm WSMs to the 195gr EOL @ 2900 fps and it has been very successful) and the 156 EOL has been hugely effective in all of our 6.5s. Something about that confidence from using “old faithful”…
It appears you’re correct. I also found another error. I’ll get the charts updated and replaced when I get a chance. This is what happens when you stare at that many numbers too long.
 

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Good old 277 still doing work. Nice 8pt at Buggs Island 56.1gn staball 6.5 140 Berger Classic Hunter.
Still heading to the ramp. Last buck tag notched.


Ryan: couldn't help myself, you can move it to hunting reports if you want
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Very nice. I’m accustomed to cleaning fish slime out of boats…..not buck blood. I would much rather clean buck blood out of a boat. ;)

 

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