Atacr reticles?

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Good morning everyone!

I've finally decided on a scope choice and it will be a 5-25 atacr for my new build that will be done in November.

During my research I read the thread on the Kahles 5-25 that @Ladd had posted and it bought up a point that I'd like to get some clarification on from those of you on this forum who use the atacr. Ladd was talking about the size of the reticle on the Kahles and how it was just a little thick for longer distance shooting when zoomed all the way in at 25x.

I can go either ffp or sfp, I'm not married to one over the other but I will admit I'm leaning ffp. With that being said is the reticle fine enough on the atacr from say 20-25x for precise holds at 800+ yards? What about the reticle on the sfp?

Any thoughts or experience you can provide I'd really appreciate it.

 

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Good morning everyone!

I've finally decided on a scope choice and it will be a 5-25 atacr for my new build that will be done in November.

During my research I read the thread on the Kahles 5-25 that @Ladd had posted and it bought up a point that I'd like to get some clarification on from those of you on this forum who use the atacr. Ladd was talking about the size of the reticle on the Kahles and how it was just a little thick for longer distance shooting when zoomed all the way in at 25x.

I can go either ffp or sfp, I'm not married to one over the other but I will admit I'm leaning ffp. With that being said is the reticle fine enough on the atacr from say 20-25x for precise holds at 800+ yards? What about the reticle on the sfp?

Any thoughts or experience you can provide I'd really appreciate it.
I have the Nightforce ATACR 5-25x56 MOAR in both FFP and SFP. The reticle is great. I have been using the FFP on my 300 PRC I built for So. Africa and Wyoming and I can say the reticle is great for long range or closer shots without any complaints at all. So far this year I have shot animals with it from 300 to 1100 yards and targets out to 750. The ATACR is my favorite scope so far.
 

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I have the Nightforce ATACR 5-25x56 MOAR in both FFP and SFP. The reticle is great. I have been using the FFP on my 300 PRC I built for So. Africa and Wyoming and I can say the reticle is great for long range or closer shots without any complaints at all. So far this year I have shot animals with it from 300 to 1100 yards and targets out to 750. The ATACR is my favorite scope so far.
Thanks Ladd. Since you have both do you have a preference of one over the other? What about the MOAR T, where only the center crosshair is illuminated vs the whole thing?

On the ffp, is the reticle easy to see at 5x in busier backgrounds? That is the only thing I'm questioning about the ffp.
 

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I prefer the SFP and we have many 5~25 ATACR's. My Preferred reticle is the MOAR T (thin and is about .062) and you don't probably want anything thinner. I have shot targets to well over 2500 yards with no issues.

If you are not shooting timed competitions, there really is no reason in my opinion to use a FFP. Especially if you want to see a reticle at 5X in low light or brushy cover

For Hunting I am 100% SFP all the way for my preferences.
 

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See attached for a chart I made of some reticles. It shows what the reticle is in MOA and then inches at distances. If a reticle has only one column it is FFP so the power does not matter multiple powers are SFP reticles. You’ll probably need to zoom in.
 

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I prefer the SFP and we have many 5~25 ATACR's. My Preferred reticle is the MOAR T (thin and is about .062) and you don't probably want anything thinner. I have shot targets to well over 2500 yards with no issues.

If you are not shooting timed competitions, there really is no reason in my opinion to use a FFP. Especially if you want to see a reticle at 5X in low light or brushy cover

For Hunting I am 100% SFP all the way for my preferences.
Thanks Broz, I appreciate it. I've always used sfp so it's easy to stay that path.
 

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See attached for a chart I made of some reticles. It shows what the reticle is in MOA and then inches at distances. If a reticle has only one reticle it is FFP so the power does not matter multiple powers are SFP reticles. You’ll probably need to zoom in.
Thank you, great work on that!
 

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I am with Broz on this, and purchase the ATACR 5-25x56 MOART in SFP and absolutely love it. I wouldn't personally change anything. Although I purchased this scope for my long range custom 7 Sherman Short, I wanted the ability to have a decent sized reticle at low power for those times when I need to shoot close in the timber.
 

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Thanks Ladd. Since you have both do you have a preference of one over the other? What about the MOAR T, where only the center crosshair is illuminated vs the whole thing?

On the ffp, is the reticle easy to see at 5x in busier backgrounds? That is the only thing I'm questioning about the ffp.
Mine are the MOART actually. To be honest, I have not used mine with less than 25x so I cannot say whether or not I like 5x. I have been an SFP guy. I ordered my ATACR in FFP by mistake but kept it to see what the fuss was all about and I have been completely satisfied. I have not liked FFP in other scopes like the Kahles and NX8 but so far I am liking FFP in the Zeiss LRP S5 but my journey with that one has just begun. I do love my ATACR FFP.
 

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I like MOAR-T on the ATACR and NXS SFP used from hunting to target never any issues.


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Just throwing this out there… may want to also consider the 7-35. It’s got a much more forgiving eye box, and the parallax is a bit improved. The 5-25 is an awesome scope (I have one), but for the same weight, I think the 7-35 is a slightly better product (I have 2).
 

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Just throwing this out there… may want to also consider the 7-35. It’s got a much more forgiving eye box, and the parallax is a bit improved. The 5-25 is an awesome scope (I have one), but for the same weight, I think the 7-35 is a slightly better product (I have 2).
I have also read about the 7-35 being better optically on average.

One other thing worth mentioning. I am not sure if you have looked through them, and I assume you will not use lower powers much, but the ATACRs with tunneling/field stops make the lower powers of the range relatively useless in my opinion. I do not know exact powers but from my recollection tunneling occured at about 5-8 power on the 5-25 and 7-10 power on the 7-35.
 

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Just throwing this out there… may want to also consider the 7-35. It’s got a much more forgiving eye box, and the parallax is a bit improved. The 5-25 is an awesome scope (I have one), but for the same weight, I think the 7-35 is a slightly better product (I have 2).
I need the lower end and even 5x is cutting it tight. Last year I dumped a mule deer that I jumped while heading to a glassing spot and at 7x I don't think there would be any way I could have gotten him in my scope.

The 5-25 sfp moar t is the one for me.....I appreciate all that have guided this decision.

I feel pretty confident I'm making a good decision.
 

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I have 3 ATACR 5x25 MOAR SFP scopes. Shot 2 of them on 6 Rem AI and 300 RUM at 1000 yds today and no problem seeing a red 2” circle on 25x. Works well for me
 

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