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    String is at tip of Nose.
    Bow arm slightly bent.
    Yes I do tighten my shoulder blades to an ark

    I do want to shoot a Prime, I have heard they almost eliminate torquing the bow.

    One more bit of info. I have to fight to keep my draw arm elbow up. The injured shoulders tend to want me to drop my elbow down.

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    Jeff I've been shooting bows for years and bending your bow arm is always a no no, you are then using muscles and upon release it is very difficult and near impossible to hold steady and consistently. Tucking your pinky and ring finger between your palm and bow grip forces you to turn your hand slightly which turns your arm a bit. Nothing but bones should be holding the bow.

    Pete's Tip #022 - The Front Arm - YouTube Pete explains it here

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    Quote Originally Posted by EdgeFan View Post
    Jeff I've been shooting bows for years and bending your bow arm is always a no no, you are then using muscles and upon release it is very difficult and near impossible to hold steady and consistently. Tucking your pinky and ring finger between your palm and bow grip forces you to turn your hand slightly which turns your arm a bit. Nothing but bones should be holding the bow.

    Pete's Tip #022 - The Front Arm - YouTube Pete explains it here
    Hmmm. I do actually drop my pinky and ring finger in to relax the grip consistently. Last year I had a "professional" offering me lessons, he told me to never lock my bow elbow. To relax it out just a bit. Maybe I gave the wrong impression here, it is not actually bent, just relaxed off of locked.

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    I have owned bows from 32" to 34" with 6 and 7" brace height. Couldn't tell a lot of difference. I can shoot what I have "OK" (BowTech Realm X) but just have to work real hard at it. I may try some accessory swap outs too. Like leaving the Option archery quivelizer and go back to a conventional quiver. I may also have my sight reworked with larger filaments to accommodate my aging eyes.
    Iím thinking you havenít found the right combination yet. When you do, you will know it. Realm X is a great bow. Maybe the grip isnít a good fit? Grip is really important. Must be repeatable for accuracy and consistency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broz View Post
    String is at tip of Nose.
    Bow arm slightly bent.
    Yes I do tighten my shoulder blades to an ark

    I do want to shoot a Prime, I have heard they almost eliminate torquing the bow.

    One more bit of info. I have to fight to keep my draw arm elbow up. The injured shoulders tend to want me to drop my elbow down.
    Technique and fit seem on point, so it sounds like its either the bow like you said, just not the right feel with the combination you have too much weight out front.

    BTW I shoot with a slight bent arm, relaxed elbow not locked, every shooter will tell you something different, it has to comfortable and repeatable. Though for grip I am a firm believer in setting the position,"grip inline with bone" and not using your fingers to help eliminate torque, I do shoot with my pointer knuckle high if that makes sense.

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    Great info all, Thanks.

    What about my issue with my draw elbow down slightly? Is it highly important to keep it high as some have told me? I am talking down 3 or 4" from the highest point I can hold it.

    Jeff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broz View Post
    Great info all, Thanks.

    What about my issue with my draw elbow down slightly? Is it highly important to keep it high as some have told me? I am talking down 3 or 4" from the highest point I can hold it.

    Jeff
    The higher you hold your draw elbow (right elbow for right handers) the more back tension you'll have on your release. Draw your bow back and fall into a comfortable position. Then move your elbow up. You'll feel the back tension increase. For me, if I'm snapping the trigger and not pulling through my shots, this is usally why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broz View Post
    Great info all, Thanks.

    What about my issue with my draw elbow down slightly? Is it highly important to keep it high as some have told me? I am talking down 3 or 4" from the highest point I can hold it.

    Jeff

    Hard to say without seeing it for myself, but generally you want your draw elbow flat, so both of your shoulders are on the same plane. Your draw elbow pointing downward could be a sign of draw length too long.

    Kinda hard to describe, but flat meaning even shoulders, AND draw arm pointing the exact opposite way of the target you are shooting at. Imagine a dead level line between arrow and target that extends back 180* behind you through your body and past your elbow to another target on same plane. That draw elbow should be pointing at the target behind you with both shoulders even. Pulling straight back thru the shot.

    In my opinion, if your draw elbow is pointing anywhere except where I described, you should look at your draw length before making any bow changes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Broz View Post
    Great info all, Thanks.

    What about my issue with my draw elbow down slightly? Is it highly important to keep it high as some have told me? I am talking down 3 or 4" from the highest point I can hold it.

    Jeff
    Is your elbow below the top of your shoulder?

    Elbow height can vary for each shooter and what release you choose, a hinge style forces you to have a higher elbow. I looked at my form earlier today, and my elbow is slightly above top of shoulder, can't give an exact measurement, though I am shooting a trigger wrist strap.

    Not to get off topic, this is a good video about front elbow position

    School Of Nock- Week 10- The front elbow - YouTube

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    Quote Originally Posted by MCosenzo View Post
    Is your elbow below the top of your shoulder?
    The comfortable position is when my elbow is slightly lower than my shoulder, maybe an inch. I use a triggered wrist strap release also.

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